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January 10, 2008

Van Buren Schools to seek bond for 3rd time

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This rendering displays possible plans for a new Belleville High School, which include keeping the old cafeteria, auditorium and music wing; adding a new gym, pool, library and media center, two three-story academic buildings in the front of the building,

Could the third time really be a charm?

Belleville school officials are hoping that will be the case.

After two failed school bond votes, the Van Buren Public School District is back with another proposal for voters in anticipation of a new and improved Belleville High School. This time around the district could ask voters for a 2.15 millage levy for an estimated $80 million bond issue.

Officials said this plan would include building around the existing school and will cost less than previous proposals.

“We’ve been working on this proposal for over a year,” said Pete Lazaroff, superintendent of the school district. “The school board expressed interest in pursuing the concept when I presented it to them at a work study meeting before the holidays.

“The cost of the project now is over $30 million less than the last proposal,” he added. “I believe the community will be aware that we are trying to make the most of our current resources.”

Plans rendered by Wayde Hoppe Architects of Belleville include: keeping the old cafeteria, auditorium and music wing; adding a new gym, pool, library and media center, two three-story academic buildings in the front of the building; the relocation of the football field and tennis courts and increased parking.

“A lot of thought will go into the phasing of the project,” said Hoppe. “It could be broken into three phases to try and prolong keeping the existing facilities and it’s possible to do a large portion of the construction without interfering with what’s going on now in the buildings.”

The three-story portion of the building would allow for future expansion, too, officials said.

“It’s less expensive later,” Hoppe said. “It’s reusing the existing site and building; it’s expanded, but still it’s been a frugal effort.”

Martha Toth, school board trustee, said it’s a good thing the district isn’t talking to designers who have built larger schools.

“It’s not what we can afford and it’s not what our community will approve,” she said. “However, it’s still not too cheap of a proposal.”

In September 2004, voters turned down a bond proposal that would have been a 30-year bond to be issued in three series. The project, in total, was planned to cost $150 million, which would equal 4.54 mills in property taxes.

Two year later in February 2006, the school district was turned down again, for a $111 million bond with a 2.90 millage levy.

“The current building is pretty old. It’s time to replace it,” said Paul Henning, spokesperson for the school district.

Voters could see the issue on the August ballot; however, officials may decide to put it on the November ballot because of cost concerns. The school bond proposal will be on the agenda at the 7:30 p.m. regular meeting of the board next Monday.

http://www.journalgroup.com/Belleville/6725

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Reader comments [14]

Jan 10, 2008 | 2:40 PM
VBTresident:

They can not be serious!!! This will go down just like the last two. People can not afford another tax!

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Jan 11, 2008 | 11:26 AM
Chris:

I am interested to see if all of the money is accounted for and will be used to improve infrastructure this time. As a parent who has pulled my child out of Van Buren schools due to the poor quality of education, I sincerely hope that any millage, if passed, can improve our failing schools.

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Jan 17, 2008 | 10:30 AM
livinginvbt:

People are losing there homes. The violence in the high school is up. I do not see this having a chance at all to pass. The school board needs wise up and stop wasting money on these ballot proposals!

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Mar 9, 2008 | 9:39 AM
Community First:

I can not believe these other comments. you folks must be the same people that voted down the new fire station. Yes, the economy is bad, but not supporting your communities education and emergency services is a sure way to make the situation worse. Wonder why property values are dropping like a rock around here? Go take a look at the high school and the old fire station. Thank god they found a way to build the new fire station despite the short sited people in the community. No one wants to move to a community with an old, over crowded High School and under funded emergency services. We need to get behind these bonds despite the small increase in your taxes. The more the better. Let’s show everyone this is a great place to live and to raise children. Let’s show everyone this is a community that supports growth and steps towards a stronger city infrastructure and educational system.

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Mar 12, 2008 | 9:03 PM
Tom:

You get what you pay for. This community is going down the tubes. Seriously, look around you. Who wants to go to BHS when they can go to a nice school? All you folks who were planning on selling your house to pay for retirement to move to Florida will be out of luck. That $30 a month investment in the schools would have paid off big…like $50,000 to $100,000 when you sold your house. You’ve screwed everyone for your short sighted, penny wise pound foolish “I can’t pay more taxes” attitude. It is an investment in YOURSELF that you can’t afford to ignore, and yet through ignorance, you just don’t see the big picture, not just for yourself, but for your BANKBOOK. Crazy.

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Mar 21, 2008 | 8:24 PM
Amazed:

There are many reasons this area is going down the tubes, not just because we do not have a Taj Mahl for a school. Overdevelopment, arm loans, all with the local government’s mismanagement of funds also contributed to this areas problems. People are tired of giving more money and not seeing results. Take this week’s article in the Independent on the Frankling lawsuit, how much of our tax dollars is Cindy King going to waste on defending her mistake. The township has lost twice in court already. Now she is talking about taking the case to a higher court. Also, the residents passed a police millage last year and then was told that this would not be enough to cover the extra officers we were promised.
Our area is not the only area that has lost value in their property it is the entire Detroit Metro Area. We all have to tighten our budget in an economic downturn and make smart financial choices. Wake you two, some people just can’t afford the extra on there taxes right now.

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Mar 23, 2008 | 9:09 PM
wayne:

if you dont like vanburen move to canton

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Mar 27, 2008 | 9:14 PM
Community First:

Wayne, great advice. Sadly, that is exactly what is happening. Several in our sub have done just that. Some with as many as 4 kids in school here. That means that close to $36,000 was taken away from the schools here the day that one family left. Keep that attitude and you will find yourself in your own little Detroit. Schools closing due to drops in enrollment and abandon houses on every corner.
Amazed, Overdevelopment? Where? More development will attract more business and more homeowners to the area. VBT has done a great job planning in the development that has taken place so far. They have learned from Cantons mistakes and are doing things in a responsible way.
ARM loans are the fault of the person who signed the agreement. The people that not only did not bother to read the document they signed, but that did not even understand that ARM stands for Adjustable Rate Mortgage. Yes Adjustable, that means it can go up, plan for it. If you can’t do it, don’t sign it. I mean come on…. it’s only the largest single investment most Americans make in a lifetime. How about actually reading and understanding what you are signing.
VBT is doing an amazing job with very little money. As far as Ms. King, she made a mistake, so what. Have you never made a mistake at work? Sadly this one just happens to hurt us financially. This is not the first time nor will it be the last. Mistakes happen. A dollar a day is all they asked. Cut back on Cigarettes, Coffee, dinner out, whatever your choice. It’s easier than you might think.

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Mar 28, 2008 | 5:09 PM
Amazed:

Community First,
A mistake? huh? Yeah everybody makes mistake but Cindy King and refuses to admit she is wrong and end this ridiculous losing fight. A ten year old could see she is in the wrong! How much of OUR money is she going spend defending HER MISTAKE? Why should the citizens cut back on anything when our own Township Supervisor will not do that? Would the township need to keep ask for more money if they would stop spending money defending their mistakes. It is her mistake and we are all paying for it. I find it funny that you suggest the taxpayers cut back on their expenses when Cindy King won’t cut back on hers. This is HER MISTAKE why should we pay for it?

As for Overdevelopment, Have you driven around the township lately? I find you comment “VBT has done a great job planning in the development that has taken place so far.” Comically. You obviously do not read the paper or drive around the township at peak times. Poor planning and yielding to the whim of the developer has caused big headaches around the township. Let me give you some examples, there have been walking trails that were supposed to be put in development that weren’t. There are numerous problems with builder’s not finishing house properly. Developers have cut down trees on other peoples properties. There are developments that are half finished due to the economy. Let’s not forget the now famous “SewerGate” on the Horste property. I can go on but you should get the picture. Also more houses do not automatically equal more businesses. There is no need for Retail. You have everything you could ever need in Canton. As for the industrial, the whole state is seeing business leave. There is a little problem that their trying to address in Lansing called the single business tax.

If you watch the township Board meeting on TV you will see what’s going on and it is not pretty. Their broadcasted Live on Comcast.

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Apr 19, 2008 | 11:11 AM
Disgusted in Canton:

Canton’s mistake? Are you for real? Canton’s only mistake was not having the forethought to get VBPS out of Canton Township! Canton is a wonderful suburban community that most people would appreciate. It has everything you need: Parks, public safety, shops, churches, schools, open space and community. What I see in VBT is nothing but a few old housing, strip malls, a couple subs, and poor schools. While you have a gem in Belleville with a quant downtown area and the lake, there is nothing desirable in the rest of the community.

Why did you vote down developing Ecorse and Belleville? You don’t want the residential development? Now that property sits vacant, probably for another 20 years. It’s at best industrial land, near Willow Run. That’s progress?

For folks living in Canton that are in VBPS, you’ve created a living hell. Your short- sighted blockade on development has drained your school system to the point of complete breakdown. CT kids and taxes are a cash cow for you. If it weren’t for CT, VBPS would have already gone bankrupt. Lord knows, districts cannot make any appreciable budget cuts, so this simple equation rules: more homes = more tax dollars.

It is a fine premise to want low-density housing, but look at the reality of your schools- you have the second largest district in Wayne County with low enrollment rates that are declining further for in- district kids. So VBPS solution is schools of choice, which brings in kids from a district worse than VBPS. No wonder you have the problems at BHS. No wonder many district kids choose private and charter schools and are fleeing this fiasco.

Wake up and join the 21st Century.

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Apr 23, 2008 | 11:25 AM
Amazed:

“this simple equation rules: more homes = more tax dollars”
Unfortunately the math is not that simple. Yes, more house = more tax dollars but more houses = higher cost for community services. The simple fact is subs do not pay the fair share of taxes. For every 1.00 collected in taxes for a house in a sub it cost the township/city 1.07 in community services. You can Google this information if don’t believe it.

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Apr 23, 2008 | 8:18 PM
Disgusted in Canton:

Googled just like you said and found an interesting premise from conserveland.org, a flawed website surely similar to the site from which you derive your information. Maybe the ratio is 1.07, but what the ratio in sparsely populated areas? You could show whatever skewed statistics you want to prove your point, but there is absolutely no way that Canton Township pays more for services to my household than it receives from me. Don’t try to add schools to this equation, because with Proposal A in place, the state pays for the schools, not the township. You can in no way tell me that CT pays more than $5,000 for me to live here.

It is evident that conserveland.org is a website with an openspace agenda. From their premise, I can postulate that towns with more homes have deficits than those that have more openspace.

Everyone loves openspace, but there is a breakeven point at which higher population densities are more cost effective for municipalities. There is no doubt that Van Buren is one of those towns less effective at providing services since you have less density and more real estate to provide the same services at compared to CT. Case in point, that is why VB residents come to the Canton Library and other numerous community facilities. Can you blame them? If you’d like to argue the point further, provide an accurate source of you information.

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Apr 24, 2008 | 8:50 AM
cra:

sounds like youre speaking of diversity between residential and non residential developement with the prior industry just not getting it of homes are too big . we dont need more congestion around here and we dont need a new HS . what we do need are elected officials that will serve us instead of themselves !

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May 9, 2008 | 7:10 AM
smoketer:

Amen CRA, someone in this post also speaks of not supporting the new fire station. What have they done with that millage money that was passed. We have no more fire chief and they are hiring police to work as firefighters at 40.oo an hr while fire fighters are getting 17 an hr…..what do you think this is doing to the fire budget? Once again they are mis spending tax payer dollars

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